Interviewing Algebra Teachers

I wanted to interview people trying to learn or teach algebra to see what their pain points are, but I didn’t know anyone personally!

My first idea was to take out a Google Ad and offer a $20 gift certificate to Amazon for 20min of your time.

I used their default “Smart” targeting with a bunch of algebra learning keywords, and set the budget to $13/day.

It ran for a week.

  • Cost me $90.10…

  • Made 39,700 impressions…

  • Drove 111 clicks to my landing page…

  • Where I collected 2 emails…

  • Which generated 0 leads.

Terrible.

It was almost my birthday, and I jokingly told my fiancee that I’d love to interview some algebra teachers as a present. She reached out to her friends and hooked me up with a bunch of contacts. So much better.

Here’s what I learned:

These interviews took place after the school shutdowns. I chatted with 4 Minnesota public school teachers. The state of MN has a set of math standards that all kids get tested on (MCA). Other states have different standards, unless they opt-in to Common Core.

Most difficult algebra concept:

  • Changing the problem context. Moving from word problem to equation to graph.

Pain points:

  • State standards have changed a lot in the past 20 years, so they have to keep adapting their lesson plans.

  • Missing the face-to-face communication and building relationships with students.

  • Accountability and feedback - much easier in the classroom. Hard to show work electronically.

  • Snowball effect, once a student gets behind it becomes harder to keep up. Math builds on itself.

  • Multiple choice questions are lame.

Teaching approaches:

  • Make videos that students can watch whenever.

  • Students regularly check in through quizzes (Schoology / Canvas).

  • Differentiation - trying different approaches on a student to see what sticks. Visual / manipulatives / etc.

  • Trying to come up with real world examples - volume of rolled up paper, moving cough through a window…

  • Each student gets a laptop or tablet through the school.

Observations:

  • Self-motivated students are thriving right now. They’re blowing through their work and asking pointed questions that get to the cause of why something works.

  • Regular kids are falling behind. Some are disappearing. They just want a quick way to do the work so they can move on with their lives.

  • Kids can’t do abstract reasoning until 12/13 years old, so sometimes a student is having difficulty because they’re brain hasn’t developed yet.

  • High correlations with autistic students and anxiety. They’re not held to lower state standards, but each have an Individual Education Plan which states their educational goals.

My conclusions:

  • Figure out a way to have students show teachers they’ve been practicing certain algebra topics, and/or allow teachers to give an assignment like “Do X random problems on topic Y”.

  • Can I do anything with changing problem context? I don’t have any sort of graphing or word problem interfaces yet…

  • Having a network of people is super valuable.

  • Taking out an ad on the internet to interview potential users is not as trivial as I thought it’d be… fantasy ruined.